I've just come across the software, the Ahead site says the following :- Converts any avi/mpg or DVD movie Bypasses any regional encryption information Copy/rip from your DVD drive, playback on computer CD drive or home DVD player No Image Loss! Same as original DVD! Convenient Step-by-Step Instructions and Software I know it talks of copying to CD, but this might not be a problem for DVD copiers. Anyone using or tried this ?? HomerJ