I've got a similar problem at the moment. I'm trying to convert Bad Company (PAL, Region 4) with the "big 3" (DoItFast4U = 1.1.1.0c, ReAuthourist = 6.05 Beta, DoCCE4U = 1.0.0.5), and all the english subtitles are fine (black outline, white center as in original), but all other languages just have the black outling. I set DIF4U to Vobsub all PGC's, and checked All angles. I haven't really had time to look at it yet to see at what point the subtitles change, I will do tonight when I get home from work. I don't know if any of my other conversons have ever had the same problem, the only reason I checked this DVD was becasue it had so many (11 subtitle streams in total from memory). Obviously this problem will never really effect me, it's just that I'm a bit fussy :rolleyes: . *edit* I used IFOUpdate .70 to get VTS sectors, and had options selected as Eyes`Only suggested above.